Santa Cruz Syndicate Worlds 2010

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The Syndicate 2010 Mont Sainte Anne worlds video is up and done already…but it appears they didn’t want to pay the uci accreditation fee of 800 Euros meaning John Lawlor wasn’t allowed to film any race action.

What he filmed instead was probably one of the best team videos I’ve seen this year…and also addresses the serious point about future media coverage of the sport we love.


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  1. LEGENDARY!!!!

    The Syndicate sure brings a feel-good vibe to the races (in addition to being totally pro and having some of the fastest guys on the planet on the team…).

  2. UCI bending over for the media and clipping the ticket on the way.

    How they justify asking organizations to pay a tariff for access and then restrict where on the course while they can film whilst at the same time put a miserly amount of cameras on track is beyond me for their official media suppliers is extreme BS.

    Is the UCI trying to grow the sport or restrict peoples ability to view it?

  3. Good insight into how the UCI screws the sport over. Thought Steve was going to unleash some Sheffield Steel one Rob, glad it was a joke in the end.

  4. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
    September 6th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Angry Kathy is a bit of a turn on!!

  5. Nail on head. The absence of any 4X highlights has seriously impacted on its popularity which is a point in case that by restricting access coverage is inevitably lost and consumers, and therefore brands (potential backers) lose interest.

  6. Surely the UCI can’t control who goes up a mountain.Did they search all the spectators to see if they were filming or taking photos?Do they pay the people who own the MSA mountain for the hire of it when it’s a perfect advertising tool for the area?
    Maybe it’s time to break away from such a money orientated organisation who only seem bothered in road riding anyway.
    They should pay the teams who are putting the films out,encourageing people to get into riding bikes.
    Can’t really remember the last UCI promotional video????

  7. BEST TEAM VIDEO EVER

  8. UCI….pffff…BS

  9. Good vid and shows exactly the kind of thing that is going wrong with professional sports, what do the UCI do for their 800 euro’s? – absolutely nothing! or maybe provide the guys who have paid the fee a laminated pass, how precisely does that cost 800 euros – The UCI didn’t think there was money to be made years ago and so had no interest in the sport but perhaps now Eurosport et al are getting a bit keener they will be all over it. I blame the French! (well not all of them, just the one’s at the UCI)

  10. Thank you UCI for existing and governing a sport you know pretty much nothing about! Nothing changed since last time there was an issue, things are still great!

    Seriously speaking, we all know that there are people who actually have common sense and do a proper job working with the UCI. I’m wondering what those good people think about all the ridiculous stuff the UCI is trying to pull off. Why doesn’t anybody ask Chris Ball, for instance? He must know a thing or two about respect and promoting the sport PROPERLY… ;)

    I really don’t think setting up good transmissions from all the races for every World Cup can be such an impossible task. It works in other sports, right? And am I the only one thinking that this year’s Freecaster footage was not as good as last years (in terms of image) and that the same cameras are used for both Freecaster and Eurosport? There has to be some explanations to that.

    We all need to bow to all videographers and photographers who bring us each season amazing footage in pretty much no-time. They are some of the hardest working people in the industry and they have a great heart. You know who you are. Respect!

    Mx

  11. once again, f*** off UCI

  12. Hi

    I think maybe dh is in the same mess as snowboard was in a couple of years back. When the fis was draining the sport of its personality.
    Then the TTR cup came along. It was a series of individual events that awarded every winner a ticket to ride at the artic challenge. I don’t say this system fits dh but maybe uci is doing the same thing to downhill as the fis (federation internationale de ski) did to snowboard. Maybe downhill and 4x needs its own organization?

    More info about ttr http://www.ttrworldtour.com/about-ttr/history.html

  13. UCI shame on you.

  14. UCI is just like FIFA, some ancient dinosaurs on a stampede, destructing everything in their surrounding but just like all dinosaurs they will eventually extinct… Left emptyhanded

  15. I was bored recently and read my way thru the UCI’s annual report (i know- i need to get out more).

    It is almost as if DH doesn’t exist.. i get the feeling our sport is viewed as ‘the troubled child’ within the hallowed walls of the world cycling centre.

    ..and they apparently make a financial loss on the MTB World Cup. they seem to be only interested in the traditional cycle disciplines they understand (and make money) – definitely not the (loss making) gravity side of things.

  16. Well the current president of the UCI is a former professional road racer so I doubt downhill is ever very high on the agenda.

  17. @Uplift: UCI is only interested in roadraces and track. Every other discipline is almost denied wether it is DH, 4x, BMX or XC mountainbiking. They had rather to invest in gravity sports, the IOC did understand this, so they introduced boardercross snowboarding and skiing. These sports are rapidly growing, more ande more people don’t want to watch long and boring “nothing is goin on” sports like roadracing, marathons any longer.

  18. I presume the syndicate also paid for the use of the other track (cryprus hill?)

  19. I doubt it, not such an issue using copyrighted songs in free to watch web videos. Your not selling anything or making money from it, if anything it’s free promotion for that artist.

  20. Jack Cooper (thelumberjack)
    September 6th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Here here – those tams shuld ba allowed to do whatever the f@£k they want around the track including filming so long as theyre not endangering the riders or the course – just like in swiming – football – or anything – football managers can run up and down the sidelines but team vidographers can’t even film they’re riders – not wihout lining the pockets of someone else – the uci should be there to support teams to carry on competing not charge them for turning up and trying to make the most of the event and progress the sport

  21. Worlds 2010 Live on Eurosport…or at least thats what I thought. I guess it was live on Eurosport UK but not on Eurosport nordic (finland, swededn, norway). I check up both channels, Eurosport and Eurosport2 and both where showing US Open. GREAT…go Federer.

    I hope that people in UCI understands that Eurosport UK broadcast does not cover whole Europe. I hope they make a better deal next time :)

  22. Dh’ers unite to create the ICU (Intensive Care Unit) and save the life of our stellar sport. There has got to be enough money in our collective pot if we unite. Then we can be more than the sum of our parts.

  23. no guys, thats NOT UCI. thats YOU and ME!!! we all want to get everything for free!!! ok, its a bit of an eye-opener to see rob complaining about 800 bucks. hey its the worlds, what better platform for your team/company do you have? 800 euros, thats less than you pay for the gold club membership!! BUT: has anyone of you complainers ever thought of the costs involved? i cant understand how the parkin bros can afford all this travelling and get paid in “burger coupons”. let us be more willing to pay something for what we expect to be perfect and for free and we dont have this anymore. things that are for free are worthless to too many of us, but do you really think you get an airticket for free?

  24. Whip, i have British Eurosport and British Eurosport 2 and have seen no footage whatsoever from the World Champs!

  25. sorry: golf club membership…

  26. What thorsten? Not quite sure what your trying to say? You think it’s a good thing that videographers have to stump up 800 bucks to allow themselves to stand on a hill all day in pissy weather only to be able to knock out a 3 minute video at the end?
    If your trying to imply that we shouldnt moan about there being fees to pay because it results in better quality coverage, well that cleary has not been the case.
    All the videographers must be pissed that at the biggest race of the year they have been forced into making (in their terms) their worst/shortest videos of the season.

  27. hey tom. you are right. the 3 min thing i only picked up once i posted. one should think before writing…. thats absolutely true 3 min @ 800 bucks is not the best of value. the UCI was not very clever bringing this issue up, BUT i dont think the UCI is as useless as everybody says. running an association can be difficult and AGAIN expensive. i think its time that people from “our” world get involved in the UCI. in the end its all bikes. unfortunately the doping-skinny-tyre-world is still more in the focus. time that people get to know those “punks” on 26inch. the budget of those DH teams just doenst allow any expenses for doping…

  28. Break away series?

  29. UCI just cares for the Tour…

    these mesures only destroy our beloved sport

  30. I guess Thorsten was just trying to point out that we shouldn’t take things for granted, because we do most of the time, especially now that we got used to, say, the “competition” between MTBCut.tv and DirtTV and all the nice teamvideos in the last two years. It’s as in the old song: “Video killed the radiostar”… Humana are a greedy breed, but I think we should stop for a second and think about what World Cup photography and cinematogrpahy implies. Would you pay a few bucks for quality footage, for a good DVD, maybe for a book with good pictures of a season? I know I would! Who else is raising his hand to support the hard working people?

    Big Ups, once again!
    Mx

  31. Someone of high regard with in DH and the will to do it needs to get the ball rolling on breaking away from the UCI.

    They will have the backing from everyone (except UCI, shame, usless tossers) so it will always be a winner!

    UCI give f’all coverage anyway so it will be a huge benefit for sponsors if the UCI restrictions lifted………will be a special day when it happens.

  32. So the UCI footage on Freecaster consisted of five cameras on the bottom third of the course and the rest, when the director finally switched to them, were lying on the grass. Then they say ‘nobody else can make a film more than three minutes’ even though we’re doing a shit job of the live stuff. Sounds like a corrupt dictatorship if you ask me.

  33. Dear Red Bull/Monster/Richard Branson/Some Big Company,

    Please stump up the cash and sponsor me to run a rival downhill and 4x series.

    I’ll let anyone film the shit out of it. It’ll be great.

    Luker.

  34. I think the willingness of DHers to pay-per-view is anything but granted… let’s just remember the rant on freecaster at the beginning of the season when they tried to charge their broadcast… And the same with the worlds

    Who’s buying more than one/two MTB DVD a year (I buy them all more or less) and who has bought Steve Peat’s book (I did) or Sven Martin’s book (I didn’t yet)…

    But all this is beyond the point. Race teams obviously see a point (read a profit) in paying videographers traveling the world and releasing videos for free… and this is great for us… and for them. It is obviously an advertising tool, they have a budget for it.

    I believe all of this is a different story to this 800 bugs fee.

    What I cannot understand is the root cause for this 800 bugs. It would be justified if the broadcasting by UCI was mainstream and high quality and/or if they (freecaster ?) released a DVD at the ned of the year that was more than just race footage put together (OK, last year’s frecaster DVD had extra content to the race footage but was still not the best DVD out there).

  35. Break away series?

    We tried that this year with the European 4X Series, but got told by the UCI 5 days before the 1st Round in Prauge that we must register all the races with the UCI becuase they are a series of mountain bike races taking place in europe?

    If we did not register the events any riders taking part with a UCI Licence will be suspended for 1 month! (this was 2 weeks before the World Cup of this year)

    So no chance of any break away series for DH or 4X.

    UCI own Mountain Biking.

  36. ive really not got much love for uci at all anymore. Is there anything else they want to do to take the fun out of racing

  37. i agree with everyone on here, we need to get away from uci in the same way i feel in the uk we need to get away from british cycling who don’t put hardly any funding into dh compared to homo roadies! british riders have to pay for jerseys to reprisent their own country! if they don’t care about us why should we care about them

  38. TV filming rights, I don’t think downhill biking is the 1st sport to have controversy over filming.

    Although it does seem poor that the teams are charged extra so they can film their own guys.

    It would appear UCI are playing the greedy corporation card.

    Downhilling is a young sport still we’d be better sending some of the mainstream TV Company’s abuse over the lack news on the World Cup Series. Here in the UK we have more success in this sport than any other. How upset was I when once again nothing was mentioned about any of the GBR guys on the BBC news after Gee took the title. How much of this is attributed to UCI ?

    Let us hope this changes the guys get the huge recognition they deserve.

  39. fun time

    saludos de
    chile dh
    jb

  40. the uci and the olympics need each other big time.
    thats why the uci swings from xc’s nuts so hard.
    dh does not need the olympics, therefore there is no reason to work with the uci.

  41. Thats ridiculous on so many levels.
    The only way a sport like this can grow is though media coverage.Not just growth in terms of the amount of riders but also grow in recognised, respected from outsiders.

    But on the flip side of that the only reason these policies are in place is because of the growth of the sport. It comes down to the suits seeing the $$$ in the coverage.

    Right I’m off to bed, today was just about bearable, until i saw that.

  42. Some background. Freecaster put pressure on the UCI to enforce the fee for team and other videographers.They did this to protect their investment. In doing so they were screwing the very same companies (IMMTO) who bailed them out at the beginning of the season when they all stepped out and invested money into keeping freecaster free the rest of the season. Nice slap in the face.

    If you add up all the Dirt/MTBcut/Yeti/AthertonProject/Trek/Lapierre/CRC/Specialized/Syndicate video views combined i bet they are more than freecaster views and they are definitely of a higher quality filming/editing. While they may be corporate videos they are promoting the venues and races and event sponsors as much as they companies who pay their Weeedeomakers.

  43. @Chris Roberts

    Wow. That’s awful. I didn’t really didn’t know the UCI’s strangle hold was that tight.

  44. @don, nail on the mate!

  45. If you actually look at the viewing figures, any one of the Dirt/MTBcut/Yeti/AthertonProject/Trek/Lapierre/CRC/Specialized/Syndicate videos gets more exposure than Freecaster. The two most salient comments here are by don and M (TTR taking over from the FIS). Something similar in DH could put the sport where we want it.

  46. 800 euros is ridiculous, its mountain biking not F1.

  47. I agree with Thorsten in a sense that we (us) have to support the videographers so that they can make a living or at least can cover their expenses. So to pay a fee for viewing is in my opinion not the problem. But UCI asking a 800 dollar for just filming ? No way !

    @Stacy : Why doesn’t DH need the the Olympics ? Imo the Olympics generates an enormous amount of publicity, bigger than every other tournament in the world. Our sport consists of a relatively small incrowd, the more people make aquaintance with downhill, the more people will practisise DH, the more the chance of finding talent, the higher the level will become and even more exciting the races will be. Therefor we need also the Olympics

  48. This has really annooyed me, I was planning to head out to Europe next summer and film some races so that you dirt viewers could enjoy even more free coverage. How is a teenager trying to make a name for themselves in the video world supposed to pay 800 euros to film one race?

    I have a good mind to film regardless next year if they impose such a charge again. How can they restrict your activity on a mountain anyway? I could claim to be filming some crazy species of ladybird next to the track and they would have no proof otherwise.

    This absolutely needs a petition like the nationals jersey row.

  49. hey lucifer,

    the olympics need dh, dh does not need the olympics.
    the ioc makes the uci look like a hardcore, grassroots bunch o cool guys.
    ioc=international organized crime

    you want more restrictions, more rules, more gay ass uniforms, more stuff that the dh community is already complaining about?

    are you in the uk? wait till the olympics come to london, you’ll see…….its brutal.

    having the olympics come to your town/accept your sport is alot like your first night in a maximum security prison.
    you have to give up ALL rights and freedoms, people yell at you, you have to wear a silly outfit, and when its over with, you wake up with a gash over your left eye and a real sore butt from getting screwed.

    motorcross is the second coolest sport in the world, and it don’t need the freakin olympics. either does dh.

  50. uci= utter total c@$*s

  51. I was recently at a PGA golf tournament and wanted to get some nice shots of the pros. An official chewed me out. Apparently your not allowed to take ANY pictures at all at a PGA event, not even on a cell phone!! The pro photogs don’t want any competition, hell I just wnated some nice pics for myself. Bastards.

  52. Does this mean that say, clay is making a dvd of the 2010 WC DH season, he is only allowed a 3min segment of riding??

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